NXR Heartland Championship Teams
11/11/2019 1:29:27 PM
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If you are interested in this type of stuff, here is a breakdown of the championship races. The enrollment of each school and how they fared in their respective state meets. [b]Boys Championship -- State -- Enrollment -- State Results[/b][i][/i] 1 Mounds View MN 1,693 AA Champs 2 Stevens Point WI 1,499 D1 Runner up 3 Eden Prairie MN 2,732 AA Runner up 4 Middleton WI 2,044 D1 Champs 5 Eastview MN 2,085 AA 6th 6 Lincoln Southwest NE 1,501 Class A Champs 7 Williston ND 1,156 1A Runner up 8 Highland Park MN 1,086 AA 3rd 9 Pleasant Valley IA 1,073 4A Runner up 10 Dowling Catholic IA 1,076 4A Champs 11 Edina MN 2,628 AA 4th 12 White Bear Lake MN 2,105 AA 7th 13 Sioux Falls Lincoln SD 1,979 AA Champs [b]14 St. Thomas Aquinas KS 925 5A Champs [/b]15 Stillwater MN 2,636 DNQ 16 Dubuque Hempstead IA 1,293 4A 3rd 17 Hopkins MN 1,856 DNQ 18 Buffalo MN 1,720 AA 8th [b]19 Free State KS 1,855 6A 5th [/b]20 Johnston IA 1,682 4A 4th 21 Willmar MN 1,005 AA 9th 22 Lincoln North Star NE 1,571 Class A 3rd 23 Wayzata MN 3,276 DNQ 24 Germantown WI 1,402 D1 8th [b]25 Washburn Rural KS 1,933 6A Champs 26 Mill Valley KS 1,312 6A 3rd [/b]27 Sioux City North IA 1,159 4A 5th 28 Perham MN 410 A Champs [b]29 Olathe South KS 2,005 6A Runner up [/b]30 Millard West NE 1,783 Class A Runner up 31 Grand Island NE 1,982 Class A 5th [b]Girls Championship -- State -- Enrollment --State Results [/b]1 Edina MN 2,628 AA Champs 2 Muskego WI 1,591 D1 Champs 3 Wayzata MN 3,276 AA Runner up 4 Sioux Falls Lincoln SD 1,979 AA Champs 5 Stillwater MN 2,636 AA 5th 6 St. Michael-Albertville MN 1,989 AA 3rd 7 Onalaska WI 917 D1 Runner up 8 Farmington MN 2,082 AA 7th 9 Willmar MN 1,005 AA 8th 10 Minnetonka MN 3,198 DNQ 11 Highland Park MN 1,086 AA 6th 12 Johnston IA 1,682 4A Champs 13 Alexandria MN 1,157 AA 4th 14 Lincoln East NE 1,695 Class A Champs 15 Eden Prairie MN 2,732 DNQ [b]16 Mill Valley KS 1,312 6A Champs [/b]17 White Bear Lake MN 2,105 DNQ 18 Olathe North KS 1,976 6A 3rd 19 Fremont NE 1,113 Class A Runner up 20 Dubuque IA 1,138 4A Runner up 21 Arrowhead WI 2,200 D1 5th [b]22 St.Thomas Aquinas KS 925 5A 4th[/b] 23 Lincoln Southwest NE 1,501 Class A 4th [b]24 Blue Valley Southwest KS 1,089 5A Runner up [/b]25 Fargo Davies ND 1,200 Class A Runner up [b]26 Olathe West KS 1,535 6A Runner up [/b]27 Valley High School IA 2,201 4A 6th 28 Minot ND 2,100 Class A 4th [b]29 Maize South KS 1,060 5A 3rd 30 St. James Academy KS 902 5A Champs[/b]
If you are interested in this type of stuff, here is a breakdown of the championship races. The enrollment of each school and how they fared in their respective state meets.

Boys Championship -- State -- Enrollment -- State Results
1 Mounds View MN 1,693 AA Champs
2 Stevens Point WI 1,499 D1 Runner up
3 Eden Prairie MN 2,732 AA Runner up
4 Middleton WI 2,044 D1 Champs
5 Eastview MN 2,085 AA 6th
6 Lincoln Southwest NE 1,501 Class A Champs
7 Williston ND 1,156 1A Runner up
8 Highland Park MN 1,086 AA 3rd
9 Pleasant Valley IA 1,073 4A Runner up
10 Dowling Catholic IA 1,076 4A Champs
11 Edina MN 2,628 AA 4th
12 White Bear Lake MN 2,105 AA 7th
13 Sioux Falls Lincoln SD 1,979 AA Champs
14 St. Thomas Aquinas KS 925 5A Champs
15 Stillwater MN 2,636 DNQ
16 Dubuque Hempstead IA 1,293 4A 3rd
17 Hopkins MN 1,856 DNQ
18 Buffalo MN 1,720 AA 8th
19 Free State KS 1,855 6A 5th
20 Johnston IA 1,682 4A 4th
21 Willmar MN 1,005 AA 9th
22 Lincoln North Star NE 1,571 Class A 3rd
23 Wayzata MN 3,276 DNQ
24 Germantown WI 1,402 D1 8th
25 Washburn Rural KS 1,933 6A Champs
26 Mill Valley KS 1,312 6A 3rd
27 Sioux City North IA 1,159 4A 5th
28 Perham MN 410 A Champs
29 Olathe South KS 2,005 6A Runner up
30 Millard West NE 1,783 Class A Runner up
31 Grand Island NE 1,982 Class A 5th

Girls Championship -- State -- Enrollment --State Results
1 Edina MN 2,628 AA Champs
2 Muskego WI 1,591 D1 Champs
3 Wayzata MN 3,276 AA Runner up
4 Sioux Falls Lincoln SD 1,979 AA Champs
5 Stillwater MN 2,636 AA 5th
6 St. Michael-Albertville MN 1,989 AA 3rd
7 Onalaska WI 917 D1 Runner up
8 Farmington MN 2,082 AA 7th
9 Willmar MN 1,005 AA 8th
10 Minnetonka MN 3,198 DNQ
11 Highland Park MN 1,086 AA 6th
12 Johnston IA 1,682 4A Champs
13 Alexandria MN 1,157 AA 4th
14 Lincoln East NE 1,695 Class A Champs
15 Eden Prairie MN 2,732 DNQ
16 Mill Valley KS 1,312 6A Champs
17 White Bear Lake MN 2,105 DNQ
18 Olathe North KS 1,976 6A 3rd
19 Fremont NE 1,113 Class A Runner up
20 Dubuque IA 1,138 4A Runner up
21 Arrowhead WI 2,200 D1 5th
22 St.Thomas Aquinas KS 925 5A 4th
23 Lincoln Southwest NE 1,501 Class A 4th
24 Blue Valley Southwest KS 1,089 5A Runner up
25 Fargo Davies ND 1,200 Class A Runner up
26 Olathe West KS 1,535 6A Runner up
27 Valley High School IA 2,201 4A 6th
28 Minot ND 2,100 Class A 4th
29 Maize South KS 1,060 5A 3rd
30 St. James Academy KS 902 5A Champs
11/11/2019 3:11:16 PM
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The following are some numbers and ideas about Kansas and how it fares in the team battle in the Heartland region. No girls team from Kansas has ever qualified. Only the Shawnee Mission Northwest boys have qualified and that was back in 2007, the first year of the region meet when a 16:40 team average was able to get 2nd place. Obviously as a state we are doing something wrong. I don't think it's the training or knowledge of the coaches or the motivation, support, etc... Like all things, I am sure there are several reasons and I have some opinions on what I think some of those reasons are. But the one I want to bring up today is that I think our state system holds us back. I'm not proposing that this is the one single and simple issue. But I do think this is a factor that should be discussed, though it will probably never change. [b]State --- Population --- Number of XC Classifications[/b] Wisconsin - 5,813,568 - 3 Classifications Minnesota - 5,611,179 - 2 Classifications Iowa - 3,156,145 - 4 Classifications Kansas - 2,911,505 - 6 Classifications Nebraska - 1,929,268 - 4 Classifications South Dakota - 882,235 - 3 Classifications North Dakota - 760,077 - 2 Classifications Obviously the population density and school sizes really benefit states like MN and WI in regards to qualifying more teams to NXN. But Kansas does not do itself any favors with its 6 classifications. I'd be interested to see what would happen in Kansas XC if we only had 3 classifications but qualified 24 teams to state instead of 12. The EXACT same number of teams would qualify to run at state but we'd have fewer champions. However, the battle for those championships would push all of the teams and individuals to greater heights. I know this sounds crazy, but runners would run faster! I am proposing that what is best for the kids of Kansas would be stronger competition for fewer championships instead of weaker competition for more championships. Every state in the heartland had at least 1 team ahead of the top Kansas boys team and every state but North Dakota had at least 1 team ahead of the top Kansas girls team. Something to think about. EDIT: I do realize that NXR/NXN is not a priority for many programs in Kansas and I understand that. When looking at all the numbers every year it certainly appears to be a big school game for those team spots. But there are also many teams in KS that do prioritize NXR and NXN. And there are many teams that would love to be more successful up there and finish higher and compete for those spots at NXN. This is just a brainstorm on what it would probably take to make that happen.
The following are some numbers and ideas about Kansas and how it fares in the team battle in the Heartland region. No girls team from Kansas has ever qualified. Only the Shawnee Mission Northwest boys have qualified and that was back in 2007, the first year of the region meet when a 16:40 team average was able to get 2nd place. Obviously as a state we are doing something wrong. I don't think it's the training or knowledge of the coaches or the motivation, support, etc... Like all things, I am sure there are several reasons and I have some opinions on what I think some of those reasons are. But the one I want to bring up today is that I think our state system holds us back. I'm not proposing that this is the one single and simple issue. But I do think this is a factor that should be discussed, though it will probably never change.

State --- Population --- Number of XC Classifications
Wisconsin - 5,813,568 - 3 Classifications
Minnesota - 5,611,179 - 2 Classifications
Iowa - 3,156,145 - 4 Classifications
Kansas - 2,911,505 - 6 Classifications
Nebraska - 1,929,268 - 4 Classifications
South Dakota - 882,235 - 3 Classifications
North Dakota - 760,077 - 2 Classifications

Obviously the population density and school sizes really benefit states like MN and WI in regards to qualifying more teams to NXN. But Kansas does not do itself any favors with its 6 classifications. I'd be interested to see what would happen in Kansas XC if we only had 3 classifications but qualified 24 teams to state instead of 12. The EXACT same number of teams would qualify to run at state but we'd have fewer champions. However, the battle for those championships would push all of the teams and individuals to greater heights. I know this sounds crazy, but runners would run faster! I am proposing that what is best for the kids of Kansas would be stronger competition for fewer championships instead of weaker competition for more championships.

Every state in the heartland had at least 1 team ahead of the top Kansas boys team and every state but North Dakota had at least 1 team ahead of the top Kansas girls team. Something to think about.

EDIT: I do realize that NXR/NXN is not a priority for many programs in Kansas and I understand that. When looking at all the numbers every year it certainly appears to be a big school game for those team spots. But there are also many teams in KS that do prioritize NXR and NXN. And there are many teams that would love to be more successful up there and finish higher and compete for those spots at NXN. This is just a brainstorm on what it would probably take to make that happen.
12/04/2019 2:31:59 PM
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To extend this to the Midwest NXR Regional... Illinois - 12,700,381 - 3 classifications Ohio - 11,718,568 - 3 classifications Michigan - 10,020,472 - 4 classifications Indiana - 6,718,616 - 1 classification Missouri - 6,147,861 - 4 classifications* I agree that we have too many classifications for our sport and DEFINITELY for our Population.
To extend this to the Midwest NXR Regional...

Illinois - 12,700,381 - 3 classifications
Ohio - 11,718,568 - 3 classifications
Michigan - 10,020,472 - 4 classifications
Indiana - 6,718,616 - 1 classification
Missouri - 6,147,861 - 4 classifications*

I agree that we have too many classifications for our sport and DEFINITELY for our Population.
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